Hey, this was kinda offtopic, but to reply to what you said in the socal thread, I think it depends on the recovery of the move astaroth used to guard crush you. Most things have too much recovery to get a free 22B afterward due to the delay on 8WR moves. I've only spent a few minutes testing this and I still have more moves to go through, but so far the only thing with fast enough recovery is 4A.