LCD or CRT?

[Jaxel]

So are you saying this also applies to LCD's that don't do any processing on their own like monitors or is this strictly LCD HDTV's?

LCD Monitors DO have processing... even they will lag; and unfortunately there are no "game modes" on monitors because they have such larger pixel resolutions and cant afford to lose that post-processing. And yes, LCD monitors DO lag; its just that with the applications you use on a PC, you cant notice it.

But there are different types of LCD monitors. LCD TN monitors have very little lag, but the image quality is terrible (this is generally what you find in laptops); they are designed for gamers and the fact that they are the cheapest LCD monitors out there... Then there are VA monitors (SVA, PVA IPVA, etc), these monitors look AMAZING, but can often have lag; they are designed more for graphic artists and people who do actually COMPUTER work.

Sony's old firmware never let you do Game Mode with HDMI, now that all of Sony's new TVs have the XMB, I guess they do. However, the link that Kosh gave is pretty much unreliable for fighting games. Most people who claim to have tested a TV and report "no lag" play games like Madden or Halo; so they cant sense the lag.

 

[Jago]

I have a CRT Curtis Mathes 35 inch I think....only problem is it's hard to see some of the text in SC4.

 

[Jaxel]

CRTs generally dont lag... they havent lagged in 30 years, so I dont see how they will suddenly make CRTs that lag...

There is only one way to test the exact lag on an LCD TV...

Buy a distribution amplifier (I have one)... get a CRT television for the 0 frame baseline... get the LCD television that you wanna test for lag. Hook up a counting device that counts in milliseconds and output it to both the CRT and the LCD through the distribution amplifier. (You can use your computer and output the video stream). Put both the CRT and the LCD screen right next to each other and start the counter. As the counter is running on both screens, take a camera and snap a photo. Look at the photo and compare the counter different between the CRT and the LCD; subtract and you have the input lag on the LCD.

As you can see, they did NOT do this on the IGN article... therefore it fails.

 

[Ruko]

CRT HDTV's can lag from scaling. I guess basically if you want HD your stuck with some sort of lagg, Definately need to see good comparions of HD screens runing 720P with asmuch processing as possible disabled.

Im gunna stick with using my cheap samsung panels for gaming after reading all this stuff about HD lagg.

btw im curious wouldnt Monitors need less(or no??) image processing than HDTV's because they have more pixels over a smaller area? I understand input lagg on the diff panel types, but is there aditional lagg applied to that. I havent been able to find anything about it other than panel info.

 

[UnKn0wN]

LCD or CRT monitors?

Umm... No... CRTs have always, and probably will continue to have better quality picture than LCDs for the next decade. CRTs have better contrast ratios, better white balance, better black balance and better color management. In almost every retrospect, CRTs are better than LCDs...

So whats the problem? Right now, the only 1080p High Definition Widescreen CRT television I can find is 32 inches; and then its about 3 feet thick. Meanwhile, I see 1080p High Definition Widescreen LCDs at 60 inches in stores; and I stood next to a 108 inch model at CES 2007.

The problem with CRTs are the footprint: size and weight. In order to get a High Definition Widescreen CRT television at around 60 inches, you would probably need about 5 feet of space and it would probably weigh close to a metric ton. Its not feasible in any sense.

I myself still use a NEC Diamondtron CRT for my computer monitor (which was $600 two years ago, and is still considered one the best CRT computer monitor you can buy). However, I am finally going to take the plunge and get an LCD monitor, and sell my CRT. I've done the research, I've looked around and I have seen with my own eyes that the best LCD monitor I can buy, barely looks as good as a CRT monitor I bought 10 years ago.

Ok I see what you mean by CRT's being better overall, but are you saying that a blu-ray movie on an HDTV doesnt look clearer and better than some normal DVD on a CRT? Or digital broadcasted channels on an HDTV compared to old analog channels on a CRT? Because thats just not true.