Skyrim

Windstar said:
To be fair, I haven't played Skyrim.
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Stop right there.

Let's take a second to evaluate your position. You know nothing of the game. You are talking about the thing you know nothing about.

Not trying to be a dick man. But that's about the face of things.
that can be difficult to follow or understand (hello Morrowind factions).
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Now I am trying to be a dick: "Confusing faction system? Yeaaaaahhhhh Dark souls doesn't have anything like that going on."

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Dick mode disengaged. As for your postulations, level scaling has gone back to the morrowind standard, subsystems have never been simpler (seriously), and the faction system was never complicated if you have more brains than the average store-bought goldfish. I think the complexity/nerdiness bar set for RPG's will mostly handle that. Seriously, how hard is it to understand something when every npc you met explained to you exactly how it worked? Is the AI still retarded? They seem to enjoy wearing buckets for hats, that's all I'll say, though you might be happy to know while it's got a long way to go a few of your negative conjectures have actually been addressed.

dungeon-romping.
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You do not "romp" in a souls game, you "slog".

romp

/rämp/
Verb
(esp. of a child or animal) Play roughly and energetically.

slog

/släg/
Verb
Work hard over a period of time.

Noun
A spell of difficult, tiring work or traveling.

Synonyms
toil
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The biggest problem I have with Skyrim is the the combat. It's a total bore to me and it mostly comes down to stats unless you are exploting the system to the point of removing any chance for failure. Combat in Dark Souls feels much rewarding because you actually have to observe your enemies and make deliberate attempts to counter their style. The open world is the only thing that really appeals to me in Skyrim, so once I have done everything once I don't really feel any desire to ever go back to it.
 
JetSetDizzy said:
Combat in Dark Souls feels much rewarding .
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You tell me how rewarding it is the next time you're shot by an archer off a ledge, or somebody magically back stabs you from 30 feet away.

It might look like I dislike DS, I don't. It just bugs me to see people talk about it like it has no bad points or flaws when it does. Reminds me of a bad used car salesman. I mean look at Wind who makes a case against one game without having even played it. That's ridiculous and definitely not fair. The alternative to you guys not addressing either game's flaws is Norik buys the game not thinking they exist and then finds them himself. If you give people the pros and the cons then at least they know ahead of time what they're getting into and they have made an informed decision. Anything less is a betrayal.
 
Played both. After awhile Skyrim stops being a game and starts being an engine for you to design and fuck about with. Setting shouts recool to zero, best thing I've ever done.

Dark Soul's really needs a sexy narrator like Kaileena in Prince of Persia 3 because I just have no motivation to play this game, if not to just let you know that you're actually making progress then for it to just reduce the bleakness of the game. Its challenging like reading a book upsidedown is challenging, its not difficult just need a lot of effort.
 
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